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chefboy
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A Letter To Moller
on: April 20, 2011, 17:48

Hello to all. This is my first post here and I would like to share a recent letter I sent to my Dear friend Moller. Enjoy and have a great day.


My dear friend, so good to hear your positive voice throgh this veil of darkness our world is about to encounter! When I re-read 'Spirituality Without God' I feel as if I am talking with you as your style of writing resonates with me in a very conducive way. I guess that is what happens to people as they can relate to one author and yet not another depending upon their likes and dislikes.

The way you communicate your message via your books is about as clear as I could think of, but for some it is overload, and for others it just does not have that final stamp of god given approval which people crave.

I, like you, my friend, have found that there is no awnser to the great beyond, and all there is, is our lives and how we decide to live.

I prefer to let my self do the living for the most part and just enjoy the ride because any thing else would be like spitting in the wind.

Go with your ambitions, take care of your priorities, live life but live it as a humane human being.

We have both had our moments of bliss in our practice to where we could not see anything but the truth of what is and those moments are just fantastic and spiritual. I also see that the prophets from other religions have walked the same path but became trapped in there own experience that they hey helped to create a legion of followers who were hopelessly trapped in their methodology of inspiration and freedom.

I write you this as a father of a 20 year old son who is just finishing boot camp in the national guard so he can afford college expenses while living at home with the family and yes I am scared. 2 of his friends had family problems and both lived with us before joining the military and 1 is in Afganistan now and the other deploys next week. These boys are aged 19 and 20 and yes I am afraid for both of them as well as my son.

As you open your last 2 books "life is a matter of priorities" and I feel this is one of the most important lines your readers could understand.In the area I live in (Eugene Oregon) I have been invited to come sit at the feet of many gurus and "feel there truth" but I have declined all invetations as I get the feeling from the people who ask me that it is a truth you must buy or be a participant of, and what I try to explain to all these loving souls is the path we walk is our own.

Quite funny in a way as these people do gravitate towards me but can not see the forest through the trees in a kind of way.

The simplicity of the path is easy to see but the walking of it can be the downfall of our message. Who wants to be a real human being with all of the spin we can give to our egos especially with the communication age of humans being so surrounded by the distractions of others and just maybe I can make it big also?

I am big, I am small, what does it matter! I have a peace within that shouts in silence! Let us, my friend, pass it as we can and still have hope for the future.


You my friend are so far away but you are my brother in this life and we shall always be closely linked.

Now as a brother I say hold on to your gold and silver as this might be all we have soon for buying power and perhaps just to stay alive.No matter what happens we have at least enjoyed the simple life of just being ourselves,not perfect but understanding that we are just humans with some design flaws that can be helped by a seriouse inquiry of what is within each of us.Chin up my brother and I will try to keep contact more frequent as I am very bad at this but just know you are with me always. Your friend and brother in the work, Doug……….


here and now…………….

moller
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Re: A Letter To Moller
on: April 22, 2011, 10:09

Welcome Doug, to our forum! And many thanks for your kind letter.


I will follow your letter as it unfolds:


Thanks for keeping in touch. It is always so encouraging for me to receive your optimistic and intelligent messages. You are right when you say:


>>

My dear friend, so good to hear your positive voice throgh this veil of darkness our world is about to encounter!


(M)

Yes. I also think we in for quite a bad spell. It is not clear exactly when and in which form, but the folks who control the world's money seem to have some very sinister plans – using us as mere cannon fodder, both metaphorically and factually.


>>When I re-read Spirituality Without God I feel as if I am talking with you as your style of writing resonates with me in a very conducive way. I guess that is what happens to people as they can relate to one author and yet not another, depending upon their likes and dislikes.

The way you communicate your message via your books is about as clear as I could think of, but for some it is overload and for others it just does not have that final stamp of god given approval which people crave.>>


(M)

Yes. I also sometimes read something from another author and feel great intimacy with the words at that moment. In that instance 'the guru comes with the book', as old Da Free John was fond of saying. (Sad, how unfree his life turned out to be. He was so very gifted, and then something seems to have gone wrong. From there onward it was just ego and abuse of those who followed him).


>>

I, like you my friend have found that there is no answer to the great beyond and all there is, is our lives and how we decide to live.

I prefer to let my self do the living for the most part and just enjoy the ride because any thing else would be like spitting in the wind.>>


(M)

Indeed. There is only this life as we as humans experience it. Whatever our experiences, these are all part of our human existence. In this way our gods are us, our relationships are us and everything about and around us, is us. Our total reality is just one ongoing presently unfolding experience, with no one as the experiencer. Just one undivided process of present human unfolding.


>>Go with your ambitions, take care of your priorities, live life but live it as a humane human being.


(M)

Beautiful!! This is so true. You put your finger right on the whole matter. To move from mere humanness to humaneness. What other challenge is there?


>>

We have both had our moments of bliss in our practice to where we could not see anything but the truth of what is and those moments are just fantastic and spiritual. I also see that the prophets from other religions have walked the same path but became trapped in there own experience that they helped to create a legion of followers who were hopelessly trapped in there methodology of inspiration and freedom.>>


(M)

Yes. The inner experiences are mostly the same. But then, afterward, when they come 'back' into their ordinary states of unawareness, they claim that they have seen/experienced god, and immediately place the whole thing in the context of their religious background. Then it all gets colored and modified to suit their pre-existing belief structures. All very sad. And so the whole thing gets reduced to nothing but a series of well-articulated concepts.


>>I write you this as a father of a 20 year old son who is just finishing boot camp in the national guard so he can afford college expenses while living at home with the family and yes I am scared. 2 of his friends had family problems and both lived with us before joining the military and 1 is in Afganistan now and the other deploys next week. These boys are aged 19 and 20 and yes I am afraid for both of them as well as my son.>.


(M)

I fully sympathize with your very real concern. Boys of that age were not made to see all the horrible things of war and human destruction. It is a side of life better spared for all of us.


>>As you open your last 2 books "life is a matter of priorities" and I feel this is one of the most important lines your readers could understand.In the area I live in (Eugene Oregon) I have been invited to come sit at the feet of many gurus and "feel there truth" but I have declined all invetations as I get the feeling from the people who ask me that it is a truth you must buy or be a participent of and what I try to explain to all these loving souls is the path we walk is our own.

Quite funny in a way as these people do gravitate towards me but can not see the forrest through the trees in a kind of way.>>


(M)

Yes, dear friend. Humane living is a product of self-knowledge and our own inner guiding light. It cannot be given by another or received by following a path dictated by another. When one joins a group, what one seeks is belonging, not the truth of human life. The group offers solace, friendship, and feel-good experiences. But the door we have to walk through to become what we already potentially are, is a path we have to walk alone.


>>The simplicity of the path is easy to see but the walking of it can be

>>the downfall of our message. Who wants to be a real human being with

>>all of the spin we can give to our egos especially with the

>>communication age of humans being so surrounded by the distractions of

>>others and just maybe I can make it big also?>>


(M)

Indeed! The ego is the false, and yet, who has even the slightest intimation that this is our most fundamental delusional 'truth'? And so, the ego and its paths always remain in control.


>>I am big, I am small, what does it matter! I have a peace within that

>>shouts in silence! Let us my friend pass it as we can and still have

>>hope for the future. You my friend are so far away but you are my

>>brother in this life and we shall always be closely linked.>>


(M)

Yes, my friend and brother. We are not apart. Our struggle and search is of the same nature.


>>Now as a brother I say hold on to your gold and silver as this might

>>be all we have soon for buying power and perhaps just to stay alive.No

>>matter what happens we have at least enjoyed the simple life of just

>>being ourselves,not perfect but understanding that we are just humans

>>with some design flaws that can be helped by a seriouse inquiry of

>>what is within each of us.Chin up my brother and I will try to keep

>>contact more frequent as I am very bad at this but just know you are

>>with me always. Your friend and brother in the work, Doug……….>>


(M)

Yes. I am seriously thinking of buying some Kruger Rands (gold coins). The future is beginning to look ominously bleak and disruptive. The elite seems to be moving fast to secure their control over us all as they expound the virtues of the New World Order in their controlled mass media.


I love your last paragraph. You are right: we can only try to overcome our inherent design faults and develop from there as best we can. This in itself is already a heroic and deeply rewarding undertaking.


Hand in hand,

Moller.


>>


chefboy
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Re: A Letter To Moller
on: May 28, 2011, 04:31

Hello my friends, I hope this finds all of you in good health and spirit! Just a quick note to you Moller that I received your new book "The Only Awakening" and have read to page 35 so far and am very impressed with the way you have started this book compared to the others!

Do not get me wrong as I am very happy with the original

book but I can see how you are realy trying hard to put this message in a more understanding way for some of the people who have put there head in the Lions mouth (ala Maharshi). I am going to enjoy the rest of this book very much I can tell but like your other books I can only read short parts at a time as the digestion process is one of the most enjoyable parts in reading your work.


The process with which people seek freedom from the pain of life can be a very big dilema as there are so many gurus and ways to follow but the truth which you bring to your readers is so simple it is hard for most to understand that the path we walk on this journey is our own and that there is never an end to it! The work is our own and we must walk our own path through self investigation to see the demons we have created and become attached to and just what is keeping us attached to this way of living which has become the normal process for us humans and which the results have been always the same as long as recorded history.

How can we not see this is beyond my comprehension except for the greed of the few who control the needs of the many. When you look at the world structure it is as it has always been that the few with the power/money control the majority of the people and by dropping some crumbs of there power/money to continue there rape of the human population. When less then 1% of the human population has control of the rest of us of what is happening on this planet and the greed of this very small group dominates everything through the new wide spread of media saturation towards the powers that be it can be very difficult for a person to realize that there is another path they can choose even though they must live with the world as it is.


My thoughts are that the only way we can make a change is through ourself first and to live our lives free from the same thoughts and actions which have led us down the path of insanity and this as you explain clearly in all of your books comes from a self investigation and I would say a gradual healing process which is never perfect but staying the path who knows as it is our own path away from the insanity of the of the mind or should I say the mindless actions which we continue to repeat.


My friends all I can say in closing is to relax,look at your life and actions and what causes them, look at the world and see us repeating the same things over and over and think! Yes think! Thought is a tool which should be used to help us all and not just the 1% or ourselves.

Be a humane human and we will create a better world for ourselves! Thanks again to you Moller for your hard work and attention to this matter which we all share.

I love you my friends, Doug……..


here and now…………….

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Re: A Letter To Moller
on: May 29, 2011, 18:49

Dear Doug,


Thanks for your long and informative letter! I'll quote it below and make a few sideline remarks.


Chefboy:

>>Hello my friends, I hope this finds all of you in good health and spirit! Just a quick note to you Moller that I received your new book "The Only Awakening" and have read to page 35 so far and am very impressed with the way you have started this book compared to the others!


Do not get me wrong as I am very happy with the original


book but I can see how you are realy trying hard to put this message in a more understanding way for some of the people who have put there head in the Lions mouth (ala Maharshi). >>


Moller:

Yes. Life itself is the 'lion's mouth'. The problem is we don't generally realise how little we understand ourselves and our relationship with this thing called 'life'. It is our very confusion which disempowers us to look beyond the obvious and so we continue in a paradigm of living where we keep making the same mistakes over and over again, without learning about the processes which fundamentally determine the quality of our life.


Chefboy:

>> I am going to enjoy the rest of this book very much I can tell but like your other books I can only read short parts at a time as the digestion process is one of the most enjoyable parts in reading your work.>>


Moller:

This is good to hear! And from my point of view so true! I look at life and our human responses to it, and simply describe what I see. But to see clearly is to cleanse the lens of the eye that looks. This is the work we all face. In fact, there is no other work. And this is quite arduous.


Chefboy:

>>The process with which people seek freedom from the pain of life can be a very big dilema as there are so many gurus and ways to follow but the truth which you bring to your readers is so simple it is hard for most to understand that the path we walk on this journey is our own and that there is never an end to it! The work is our own and we must walk our own path through self investigation to see the demons we have created and become attached to and just what is keeping us attached to this way of living which has become the normal process for us humans and which the results have been always the same as long as recorded history.>>


Moller:

Indeed! It is the very simplicity of mere observation that confuses the mind looking for complicated ways by which to simplify the very complications it brings us. What iIpropose is that we learn how to look in order to establish a correct, meaningful, realitic and intelligent/loving relationship with our world – and this includes with ourselves. This is why you are right in suggesting that the inner enquiry I propose centers on the individual, albeit without morbid self-focus or self-mortification or self-glorification.


Chefboy:

>>How can we not see this, is beyond my comprehension except for the greed of the few who control the needs of the many. When you look at the world structure it is as it has always been that the few with the power/money control the majority of the people and by dropping some crumbs of there power/money to continue there rape of the human population. When less then 1% of the human population has control of the rest of us of what is happening on this planet and the greed of this very small group dominates everything through the new wide spread of media saturation towards the powers that be it can be very difficult for a person to realize that there is another path they can choose even though they must live with the world as it is.>>


Moller:

The history of mankind generally centers on the control of the few over the many. Only self-knowledge can set us free from the rampant and brutal conditioning the few hypnotises us into. If each of us could wake up from the dream of conditioned, mechanical, automatic (hypnotised) behavior, we can free ourselved from the memes of disempowerment the elite convinces us of.


Chefboy:

>>My thoughts are that the only way we can make a change is through ourself first and to live our lives free from the same thoughts and actions which have led us down the path of insanity and this as you explain clearly in all of your books comes from a self investigation and I would say a gradual healing process which is never perfect but staying the path who knows as it is our own path away from the insanity of the of the mind or should I say the mindless actions which we continue to repeat.>>


Moller:

Yes. Absolutely! Self-knowledge is not just a new knowledge-base founded on past self-observations. It is an ongoing, vigilent process where we realise the importance of staying awake to our habitual patterns of response. To become aware of unawareness , IS awareness. And in such awareness alone sanity, intelligence and love flowers by itself.


Chefboy:

>>My friends all I can say in closing is to relax,look at your life and actions and what causes them, look at the world and see us repeating the same things over and over and think! Yes think! Thought is a tool which should be used to help us all and not just the 1% or ourselves.


Be a humane human and we will create a better world for ourselves! Thanks again to you Moller for your hard work and attention to this matter which we all share.>>


Moller:


Thanks Doug, for your kind and wise words of advice. We are indeed in this thing together. The problems we share on this forum and which I share in my books are universal and not isolated events for the few. We are simply all crackers, and my interest is to wake out of my crackersness and find truly human and humane ways of living. Without discovering these ways, we are doomed to live our lives in mediocrity and stupidity – as we have been doing for thousands of years. I believe I have found such a way of waking out of the dream of conditioned living and it is this I try to share with others, here and in my books. The work is never finished, But the beauty of it lies in the awareness which allows us to see clearly and to act on the basis of such clarity, intuition, insight and our deeper intelligence.


hand in hand, dear friend,

Moller.


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